Posts Tagged 'beauty'

The flaw of Aesthetics

lets us assume that Beauty is the recognition of truths that are within ourselves, and that there is an object truth.

As non-perfect beings some of what we recognise inside ourselves as truths are infact non-truths, this leads to representations of these non-truths as being percieved as beautiful. This could be described as False Beauty, for a perfect being would not find such an object to be beautiful.

and i’m afraid this leaves us in a similar conundrum to where we started, for beauty is a representation of truth, however things that are not true can apear to be beautiful.

this could be used as an argument against modern art which strives for the subjective rather than the objective, and in so doing decieves itself with false beauty.

Aesthetics, a quicky

Kant breaks Beauty into Pure Beauty and Dependant Beauty. Pure Beauty being devoid of all motive, while Dependant Beauty requires motives i.e. it becomes beautiful when other factors are taken into account, but may not be thought of as being beautiful upon first impressions.

i think this distinction is in some ways false, i would instead say that Dependant Beauty is simply the beauty of understanding. it is the very act of understanding the concept that is beautiful rather than the object that embodies the concept.

ok thsi needs a complete overhaul its reall pretty terrible.

beauty

kk so i had this thought in the shower this morning and ithink i might be kinda good so feebback would be nice.

anyway so i’ve allways had different ideas as to what beauty is, its one of my favorite puzzels. ahve to take that beauty means everything from

alot of my ideas have come noting the differences between beautifull women and sexual attractive women. which is fairly substancial. and this lead me to the idea that beauty was in the small details and imperfections. however this means that a perfect being would not be beautiful. i came to the idea that beauty is truth as have many other people. now i’m not sure if turth is the right word or if ‘real’ might be a better substitute but i’ll stick will truth for now.

but anyway so this gets interesting. because their are three things i’m not sure if its possible to rationalise (you can probaly explain it rationaly… maybe) ; love, faith and beauty. cool ay. i mean yeah sure there are ways to apply maths to beauty with the golden section etc etc but i’m not sure if you can apply that to a plastic bag floating in the wind or a dead bird. you just intuitivly know its beautifull, or rather you more feel that its is beautifull.  and if beauty = truth then turth can also be know inutitively!!!

and also as a side its notable that morals are also intuitive, you can rationalise it all you want but in the end you have to do what feels right.

so for all our ability to undertand reason we have almost no concept of intuition.


ED | Thu, 11/29/2007 – 03:36

Many see natural beauty folded within petals of a rose.

Many see natural beauty folded within petals of a rose.

Immanuel Kant,
writing in 1790, observes of a man “If he says that canary wine is
agreeable he is quite content if someone else corrects his terms and
reminds him to say instead: It is agreeable to me,” because
“Everyone has his own (sense of) taste”. The case of “beauty” is
different from mere “agreeableness” because, “If he proclaims something
to be beautiful, then he requires the same liking from others; he then
judges not just for himself but for everyone, and speaks of beauty as
if it were a property of things.”[1]

iewer interpretations of beauty possess two concepts of value:
aesthetics and taste. Aesthetics is the philosophical notion of beauty.
Taste is a result of education and awareness of elite cultural values;
therefore taste can be learned. Taste varies according to class,
cultural background, and education. Poor taste is usually seen as a
product of ignorance. According to Kant beauty is objective and
universal; thus certain things are beautiful to everyone.


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ED | Mon, 12/03/2007 – 00:46

ok thatsright i remembered this after someghng dins said. and it kinda discounts my argument because it make beauty less universal.

but i think a more likely definition is beauty is a self truth. so when you see somthing as beautiful it is beacuse you recognise that it reflects a truth within your self

this brings in the element that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. and rather than beauty it self being universally true, objects that are universally beautiful are representative of a truth that is inside of everyone and is a greater universal truth. .

so great universal beauty would be representative of somthing that is true to everyone.


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